Monday, December 24, 2007

Episode 23: The Frist Annual Views From The Longbox Christmas Super-Hero Spectacular



Merry Christmas, everybody! I am going to forgo the usual stuff I do for the episodes and just cut right to the chase as it is the holidays and time is at a premium. Here, for you're listening pleasure, is my very special Christmas episode. It not only contains the usual commentary about comics, this time about the comic book related presents I received as a kid, but also some holiday music and three, count them THREE, Christmas themed stories from the days of Peter Pan and Power Records featuring Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.

And, as promised, there are the pictures I mentioned in the episode provided courtesy of my good friend Ryan Speck of Media Gauntlet who had the good sense to keep his box whereas mine has been lost to history.

I hope everyone has a very a Merry Yule, a Happy Holiday and a very Merry Christmas.






The pictures are the side, the front and back and top in that order. Ryan colored the pictures as he found it creepy to have an orange box with black and white characters on it. The images themselves were pretty standard Marvel merchandising shots at the time. That Hulk, Captain America and Spider-Man were used over and over again. The Wolverine appears to be the Art Adams version from the cover of Classic X-Men #1.

Tuesday, December 18, 2007

No New Epsiode This Week

I just don't have the time or energy this week.

The Christmas episode will be up on Christmas Eve, but until then I am going to take another week off.

I know, I know. I'm a slacker.

Monday, December 17, 2007

Thoughts on Spider-Man's Origin


I've been reading a lot of Spider-Man books recently. I'll get into why at some other point but for whatever reasons the character has just grabbed me lately. Grabbed me as a reader in a way he never did before.

One of the stories I've read lately (or re-read as I have probably gone through it about a dozen times in my life) is the origin story from Amazing Fantasy #15 (August 1962). Many people have written about what a groundbreaking origin story this was for a super-hero and frankly I agree with them. Looking at that story in the context of the times it was published it is an amazing leap forward for what can be described somewhat pretentiously as the super-hero genre. It was the next step after the Fantastic Four. The FF got their powers through an accident and immediately set about helping people with them. The fact that they bickered and that Sue Storm was actually a viable member of the team is what set them apart but in their first issue they all put their hands in and declared their intention to help mankind.

Spider-Man was different. Stan Lee and Steve Ditko took two pages to establish what a bookwork and outcast Peter Parker is, which may not sound like a lot of space but in the early sixties in an anthology book in an eleven page story that was a lot of time to devote to character development. He received his powers from an accident involving radiation (standard for the day and pretty much the next decade or so) and the first thing he did was test his powers out at a wrestling match, which went well enough for him to grab the attention of a TV producer. From there Peter designed and sewed the costume, developed the web fluid and shooters and went on television. Through the dialog you get the sense that Peter is kind of a bitter and angry young man and with the comments made by his classmates at the beginning of the story it is little wonder he felt this way.

Then it happens.

The thief runs by him after robbing...something. Peter doesn't stop him. The same thief ends up robbing the Parker household and killing his Uncle Ben. With great power comes great responsibility.

The origin has been re-told over and over again so many times in variety of mediums. If you read enough Spider-Man comics you see it again and again and again. So much so that after a while it kind of loses its power as an origin. You forget Peter being mocked by his classmates and the resentment he feels and the love Ben and May Parker had for their nephew. It's almost like Batman and the death of the Waynes. You see that enough and the concept that a little boy watched his parents die violently in front him gets forgotten. After awhile both origins are a means to an end.

That was one of the thoughts that ran through my head as I re-read Amazing Fantasy #15. Here's the other:

The origin of Spider-Man wasn't a super-hero story.

It was a science fiction story.

If you've ever read any of the horror and science fiction books put out by EC Comics in the fifties then you know that they follow a certain pattern. Establishing character development followed by something weird or horrific happening followed by twist ending. This is not to diminish those stories. I love them with the best being the ones in my opinion being the horror books, but the science fiction tales were great as well, but they did have a formula like most comics of the time had some kind of story engine. After the formation of the Comics Code EC was forced to find a new direction, which didn't work out and with the exception of Mad, which eventually shifted to magazine format, all of it's titles were canceled.

This didn't stop other publishers from copying the formula albeit in a watered down, code approved version. In 1961 the company that would become the Marvel Comics as we know it today put out a comic called Amazing Adventures, which was an anthology book that told monster and science fiction stories including an adventure character who dealt with the weird and wacky named Doctor Droom, who would be brought back later in the seventies as Doctor Druid. With the seventh issue the titled was changed to Amazing Adult Fantasy, that was supposed to be a more mature title brought home by the little caption on the cover that read, "The Magazine That Respects Your Intelligence."

Number fifteen was the title's last issue with yet another name change, this time to the simpler Amazing Fantasy. It was here that Stan published a concept that from all accounts was a bone of contention between Lee and his publisher, Martin Goodman. Goodman hated this concept of a super-hero who was not only a nerd but a teenager with problems and hang-ups. I don't know how apocryphal that story is. It's hard to tell what really happened and what made for a better story later, but in any case the concept was apparently looked down upon so Lee stuck it in this little anthology book that was going to be canceled anyway and thus a legend was born.

The thing is that if you read the story...I mean really read the story it fits perfectly within the format of the science fiction story with the twist ending. Ordinary kid who is mocked and ridiculed. Loving family. Suddenly he is involved in an accident that gives him the powers of a spider. He takes advantage of those abilities and tries to make money but doesn't step up to help when that help was needed because he was looking out for no one but himself. Then his Uncle Ben, a man he loved and who loved him, is killed by a robber and after cornering the man Peter discovers to his horror that it was the very same man who he failed to stop when he had the chance. The only thing that really separates it is the super-hero style costume, which is mocked at the beginning of the story with the little blurb that read, "Like costumed heroes? Confidentially we in the comic mag business refer to them as 'long underwear characters'!" Without that caption at the beginning this story would have been right at home in a science fiction anthology title.

And honestly if the strip hadn't proved successful it would have been just another story with a snap ending. Instead with retelling after retelling and over forty years of comic book stories, movies, television series and the rest it has become an archetypal origin story.

In any case it's still a solid little story. Sure times and sensibilities have changed but it still holds up surprisingly well.

Weird aside; two months before Amazing Fantasy #15 was published a Stan Lee/Steve Ditko story titled Goodbye to Linda Brown could be found in Strange Tales #97 (June 1962). The story concerned a young, wheelchair bound girl who lived with her uncle and aunt in a beach front setting. I won't give away the details of the story (though it was kind of neat) but there was one strange bit of business thrown in. The uncle and aunt were named Ben and May Parker. And they looked just like Peter's Aunt May and Uncle Ben.

Dark Knight Trailer

Well, that looks all about some awesome.

DARK KNIGHT TRAILER

So far it looks good. I have to agree with my friend Ryan that while the first one had a good origin story for Batman the actual plot (the whole water vapor thing) made little to no sense. Sure I got was Ra's was doing, just the means to that end were kind of...stupid.

I think with this one the plot and motivation is pretty clear. The clip of Gordon smashing the Bat signal was pretty cool.

Again, looks pretty cool. Hopefully it will turn out that way.

Hell if Dark Knight, Iron Man, Incredible Hulk and Punisher War Zone are all good 2008 might turn out to be a very good year for comic adaptations.
You know, unlike 2007, which pretty much sucked for them.

Saturday, December 15, 2007

Geeks Are Voting

I live about 30 miles or so south of Atlanta, GA and the biggest newspaper in the are is the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. One of their features is called The Vent, which is a forum for readers to call in and express their opinions regarding current events. Today I happened to be reading AJC and caught this in The Vent:

I'm voting for Opitmus Prime; that way we won't get another Decepticon for president.

I for one support this idea. We need a strong, decisive leader in the White House. A leader that knows that there is a difference between being a hero and being a memory.

With that I support Optimus Prime as the next President of the United States.

Thursday, December 13, 2007

Episode 22- The Epiphany Episode

Episode Twenty-Two: The Epiphany Episode

Views From The Longbox is a comic book podcast hosted by Michael Bailey. Every week Michael will cover some aspect of the wide, wide world of comic books. Each episode will usually run twenty to thirty minutes so Michael won’t be wasting too much of your time with his sometimes incoherent ramblings about the comic books and related items that he has squirreled away in his house. This week's episode includes:

- Michael shortens the opening clip a bit.
- Yet Another Out of Context Theater.
- Michael talks about the motivation behind his recent purchases and what that led him to discover.
- More reader mail and the winner of the first Views Contest

Views From The Longbox Logo is by Blake Wilkie

Another week of getting this up late, but hey, what can you do?

Well, I guess I can get it up on time, but that is beside the point.

I was rather happy with this week's episode and think it turned out well. I hope you enjoy it as well. As always you can write me at viewsfromthelongbox@gmail.com because I like getting e-mail.

Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Is It Actually Good Or Am I Imagining Things?


So I literally just finished reading the first three parts to the current Spider-Man arc One More Day.

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I know what some of you are thinking, "But, Mike," you think, "Isn' that just a terrible idea that will lead to an equally terrible idea?" And there is a huge chance that you would be right, but I must admit that, like Shag, now that DC is disappointing I have been "seeing other people" and I've also been on this Spider-Man kick lately, so there's that too.

So taking away all of the feelings I have about the possibility of Marvel taking away Peter and Mary Jane's marriage and taking away all of the hype and controversy and bitching that surounds the arc how is the story?

Kind of compelling really.

I picked up the Spider-Man titles during The Other mostly due to Peter David writing Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. I actually got into the character as I liked what J.M.S. was doing in the lead up to Civil War (back when I was really excited about it). After having the drop Amazing and Friendly Neighborhood for a bit I picked it up again last summer and got caught up. Whatever problems I had with Civil War (and they are legion) I thought Spider-Man's end and his crossovers were pretty awesome.

Back in Black, which came after all of that, was not only one of the best synergies between comic book and comic film hype but was also a pretty neat little story showing Peter Parker going as low as he can possibly get. It also had a pretty bad ass fight between Peter and the Kingpin, which was almost worth the whole thing to see.

(Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man had some great stories as well, including another fight, this one between J. Jonah Jameson and Peter, which was also awesome.)

Which brings us to One More Day.

Now I think the idea of getting rid of Peter and M.J.'s marriage is one of the worst ideas since New Coke, but again in ignoring all of that and reading the story I'm rather enjoying it. At it's heart this is a story about what two people are willing to sacrifice for the ones they love. On the surface it sounded like a terrible idea; Mephisto offers to cure Aunt May in exchange for Mary Jane and Peter's marriage. The twist is that Mephisto doesn't only make the offer to Peter but to MJ as well. So it's not just Spider-Man giving up one thing he cares about for another, it's both of them and I kind of dig that. It gives the story an emotional core that I wouldn't have figured.

In the end it could all end badly. In fact I'm about seventy-five percent sure it will. At the same time I'm kind of enjoying it and am interested to see exactly how they get from One More Day to Brand New Day.

And besides, it's better than Countdown.

Thursday, December 6, 2007

Episode 21: The Fifty-Cent Box Episode

Episode Twenty-One: The Fifty Cent Box Episode

Views From The Longbox is a comic book podcast hosted by Michael Bailey. Every week Michael will cover some aspect of the wide, wide world of comic books. Each episode will usually run twenty to thirty minutes so Michael won’t be wasting too much of your time with his sometimes incoherent ramblings about the comic books and related items that he has squirreled away in his house. This week's episode includes:

- Michael's back after two weeks with the theme song he always wanted.
- Charlie Brown, Thanksgiving and Law and Order: Criminal Intent.
- More Out of Context Theater.
- The fifty cent box and how it is quite possibly the greatest thing ever.


Views From The Longbox Logo is by Blake Wilkie

Back after two weeks with the theme song I have wanted to use since the beginning. Hope you enjoy it.

The First Official Contest is over, but you can still write in with your thoughts and feelings at viewsfromthelongbox@gmail.com